Discuss: Do Politics Belong in Kids Movi...

Discuss: Do Politics Belong in Kids Movies?

Posted by SexiVixxEN 51 days ago
A couple of people have been griping about Wall-E director Andrew Stanton's refusal to admit that his cute little movie about a robot in love actually contains some pretty upfront green politics, but there's a far more polarizing reference in the film than its harmless pro-environment agenda. It's no major plot spoiler to reveal that, about an hour or so into the story, Fred Willard appears in a recorded message as the mysterious president of Earth's corporate government and orders the ship's captain (Jeff Garlin) to "stay the course." Wait, we've heard this one before: It was the go-to statement used by the Bush administration for about three years or so when describing its modus operandi in Iraq (the term was abandoned when staying the course started to sound like a bad idea). In Wall-E, the context is quite different -- it's an order to not do something, rather than take action -- but hard to ignore nonetheless.

Certain critics with (surprise!) conservative slants have taken issue with this. At Dirty Harry's Place, John Nolte expresses his disappointment in the first paragraph of his review: "Have we lost the wonderful studio who brought us The Incredibles and Ratatouille to Bush Derangement Syndrome?" he asks. New York Post critic Kyle Smith picked up the rant and decided to write his own, even though he hadn't seen the film yet: "This kind of crack, lame as it is, also breaks the spell of the movie by hurling you out of the theater and back into reality."

Smith, of course, didn't have the frame of reference to know what he's talking about. (Welcome to the world of extreme miscalculations in the blogosphere.) Nolte, on the other hand, rightly deems the first act of the movie "magical" and complains that the Bush reference sullied his love for Pixar. "Other than the dark chuckles from the liberal critics around me, what's to gain?" he asks. "Why go there?" To which I would respond: "Why not?" It seems like the kind of order Willard's character would give, it reflects the circumstances, and places an otherwise far-fetched narrative in the context of modern times. Wall-E is an innately political film for viewers old enough to recognize it as such; what's the harm of one more bullet point from the headlines? Before you complain that "Stay the course" now belongs to yesterday's headlines, it's important to realize that Wall-E takes place eight hundred centuries from now, so maybe the line implies that rhetoric is cyclical.

Then again, perhaps my own political proclivities have misled me. What do you think? Do politics belong in family films? Does the inclusion of the "Stay the course" line have topical implications regardless of the context? Well, Willard thinks so.
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crazymann1
posted by crazymann1
so what thats good that he is trying to make a point whats wrong with that it is his right to do so
posted 50 days ago
kittykatattack
heres a concept everyone, its just a movie, why do we have to read so much into everything these days. maybe it had absolutely nothing to do with politics and a wierd and funny coincident relating to something political in the past. i can think of way more important things to do with our lives like changing politics instead of ripping apart a movie that a year from now you wont even remember and most likely still show this movie to our kids and they their kids and so on and so on... with no implications regarding politics.
posted 50 days ago
djrickyricardo
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posted 50 days ago
InfamousHugo
posted by InfamousHugo
Wall-E is family movie, not a kid movie, there is a big difference. Some movies are intented only for kids, but Wall-E is obvously targeting the entire family, from the kids to the parents meaning it has all the cuteness that entertains kids and some clever stuff to either entertain or make the adults think. So yes, politics belongs in that film.
posted 50 days ago
putmeinthemovies
when your younger your not really concentrating on if there are 'hidden political views' in the movie your watching. your more foucused on that little talking pony...its not abig deal and if parents have a problem w it they shouldtn take their children to c those movies...
posted 50 days ago
sxeptomaniac
posted by sxeptomaniac
Actually, I question whether the line has much of anything to do with Bush. It's a nautical phrase, and science-fiction films almost always use nautical terms in space ships.

Why does it seem like everything has to be about Bush?

Most kids, and a fair number of adults, in my opinion, won't draw a connection anyway, so what does it matter?
posted 51 days ago
thedudeman
posted by thedudeman
Uh, anybody rememeber Once Upon a Forest? that is as political as a kids movie can get.
posted 51 days ago
GlenTheRinger
posted by GlenTheRinger
Yeah actually, from what I hear, this is not really a kids movie. It's more a teen to seniors film from what I understand. For everybody except for the little ones.

Gotta say I pretty much agree with 'miketheninja' too. And really in truth, almost everything is political in some way or another. Without some angle of politics(power), it's near impossible to create a story of any kind.
posted 51 days ago
GlenTheRinger
posted by GlenTheRinger
The saying "Stay the course" is much older than George Bush, if one thinks that is a reference to Bush or anything political is quite frankly a moron. It's a common saying.
However the question is very good, "Do politics belong in kids and/or family films?". Well I think that they definitely do. Art is art, and the whole point of art is to give a voice to the artist and their vision. Their vision is their vision, whatever point of view they may have, it doesn't mean that anyone else has to agree. The art of free expression in the United States is almost frequently questioned these days and this is a very, very sad fact. I hear people claiming that these were the kinds of ideas the country was built on, but yet fascism is rampant everywhere. People must be free to voice their way of seeing things no matter if it is a family film. People can make up their own minds what they think. The best films and art in history are the kind that make you ask yourself questions.
posted 51 days ago
TriplE3
posted by TriplE3
I took my 5yr grandson to see Wall-e and he was bored with this flick because he kept asking to see it over and over again. I was disappointed because I felt the smaller kids wouldn't get most of what they were alluding to and as for my grandson, (midway through the movie), he didn't want to watch it anymore. He began to ask about seeing the new Batman movie, The Dark Knight (which isn't out yet). He even turned to me during this movie and said "We should have gone to see Narnia (Prince Caspian), which is no longer showing at the movies here. My grandson loves both Narnia movies and when he likes something he is enrapt and you don't hear a peep until the movie is over. He kept talking about other stuff during this movie so, I know he was not into it. I was expecting more from Disney and I can honestly say this in not one that will be added to my collection until the dvd hits the $5.00 bin at Wal-Mart. I'd wait on this one (dvd) but I'd be lying. Not a must see in my book.
posted 51 days ago