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Plot:
Jean-Jacques Annaud's The Name of the Rose is a flawed attempt to adapt Umberto Eco's highly convoluted medieval bestseller for the screen, necessarily excising much of the esoterica that made ...( read more
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A murder mystery set in a fourteenth century monastery. Based on the novel by author, philosopher, critic, extrodinaire Umberto Eco, the story combines a love of pop detective fiction like Sherlock Holmes and Nero Wolfe, with an rigorous interest in mid-evil monastic ritual, philosophy, esoterica, and politics.
A young monk is killed, and before the Inquisition is summoned, Sean Connery is given a chance to crack case as a wise but contentious monk, who uses early scientific method and deduction to reason out a case most are ready to claim as the work of the devil.
Hidden passageways, mysterious libraries, forbidden passions, and an old conspiracy, all make there appearances without ever succumbing to so many of the cliché's associated with them.
The only real problem here is that a true understanding of the films end calls for a pre-understanding of Philosophy and not just books that are written and why, but books that don't exist and what that suggests.
What if comedy is was just as important to western culture as tragedy, how would this affect our literature, philosophy, and religion, down to our daily lives of sacrifice and toil? What if laughing was as beatific as martyrdom, and seriousness held in as high regard as fleeting joy. What if there were no highs and lows in culture, no or less distinctions between the sacred and the profane(the story begins with the murder of a monk known for his satirical illustrations). Well everything kinda hinges on that, but it's not communicated very effectively, these ideas make an appearance late in the script and unless you already know(SPOILER), that Aristotle's Poetics on Comedy was lost, and that we have only on the parts concerning Tragedy with which to base (for hundreds and hundreds of years, and amongst some still to this day) the absolute definition of the nature and purpose of literature and how to identify quintessentially a "good work". The birth of literary criticism and absolutism with regard to western writing.
Well the film asks the question which may be more interesting a proposition than the movie itself, still it's a fascinating intersection of genres, styles, and concepts, a torch lit labyrinth of ideas and gloomy monks with magnifying glasses.
As a great fan of the book, I was determined to separate the film from it. And, when you do, the movie is actually very enjoyable.
It's faithful to the novel, I'll add. But, ignoring that, it's a cold look at the neuroticism hidden under the surface of many - if not all - religions.
Though Connery is good, it is Slater who really breaks through in the movie, despite the odd pudding - bowl haircut. At seventeen or so, he managed to keep up with his much older co - stars superbly. No awards for the poor chap, though.
Overall, a great watch. The Da Vinci code for people who want to think.
You can always tell a script which came from a novel because of the depth of detail in the story. This film is an example.
Quite liked this film, actually. Connery is very watchable and the storyline, though a little muddled, is interesting.
Although Sean Connery's Franciscan sleuth is called William of Baskerville, and he's prone to declaring his feats of reasoning as 'elementary' to an intellectually inferior companion, he is not a worthy, Medieval precursor to Sherlock Holmes - at least not in this 'Palimpsest' of Umberto Eco's novel, which I haven't read - for the following reason: too many of Baskerville's leaps in understanding are intuitive rather than deductive. Furthermore, instead of being detected, too many of the facts of the mystery are simply volunteered by the supporting characters, especially by Michael Lonsdale's Abbot and Ron Perlman's hunchback, Salvatore. However, even if "The Name of the Rose" fails to satisfy as a detective story, it still has much to recommend itself. The photography and use of location are splendid, the supporting cast of monks are unforgettably grotesque, especially Perlman, and the film is powerfully atmospheric, with a fine period feel. Along with "The Untouchables" and "Indiana Jones & the Last Crusade", this was one of the last great roles Connery had, before he got a little too old for Hollywood to know what to do with him and slid into an embarrassing decline.
Interesting movie, but if you've read the book you'll probably think this is a waste of excellent material.
Interesting concept. Freaky at times because of some of the creepy characters. But as a librarian I appreciate the setting of this movie and the issues it presents regarding who controls knowledge and the value of all literature.
Can't comment on Umberto Eco's book as I haven't read it. Sean Connery as the Sherlock Holmes of the 14th Century, showing the disturbing superstition of the medieval ages.
I first saw this film as a child and many of its images stuck with me until this day. Some (the ending, particularly) even seem to have been somewhat prophetic of my life to come. Watching it now, I find the film to possess many sides. Some flattering, others less so. The end result moves me, I can tell you that. What I really don't know with this one however, is whether that's due to qualities, self-contained within the picture, or my own experiences tied to it.
Ya sé que "El nombre de la rosa" es uno de esos títulos emblemáticos de los años 80 pero para mí fue una tremenda decepción. Me esperaba una mucho mejor adaptación de la novela de Umberto Eco y aunque los actores no estén nada mal a mi no me ha gustado casi nada. La he visto muchas veces y no sé que es eso que todo el mundo le ve. Es correcta, lo sé pero no llega a entretenerme ni divertirme como esperaba.
yes much of the book is left out but it would have to be a 12hour film if it did. good mystery film anyway
You can not find the concept of original story in this movie. They turn this to an action movie on base of a psyco/political book.
a very nice film about Catholicism
in middle age and very suspense
based on the book of great Eko ,
seems how bad is code nta vintci
An exciting movie, great suspense! A detective story in a monastery in the middle ages, scary ugly monks, secret religious ceremonies, the inquisition... Sean Connery is the star.
This film is just plain weird, in all the good ways. Think Sherlock Holmes in a monk's robe. Great atmosphere, wonderful acting, scenes are interesting, a MUST SEE!
A very young Christian Slater. Total 80's "thriller". Very intense designs and dialog and a lot of sexual things thrown in. I wonder how some of the actors could get the lines out with a straight face.
I really enjoyed this medievil whodunnit, of course Sean Connery acts any part with a Scottish accent but in this Christian Slater does'nt drop his American accent either!
Forget historical accuarcy and enjoy an engaging thriller.
An interesting look into the life of a monk at the monastary. I have read many things on the subject, and so all of this fit well. I would love to be in that library!
Sherlock Monk... it was clever as far as the story developed, but it was only a decent film rather than great. Totally worth seeing though.
Usually when Umberto Eco finishes a book, he ends up with a masterpiece. We all know that doesn't necessarily make a good movie. But in this case, Sean Connery, a very young Christian Slater and so many more wonderfull actors deliver a masterpiece in medieval Italy.
A perfect movie to show the change of paradigm from "Middle Age" (I mean "Edad Media", in speacial final part of The Gothique) and The Renaissance. Don'f forget who wrote the book: H. Eco! This movie shows in a very, very clear way the opposites forces in many aspects from this particular momento of history. You've got the phylosphy part, remember Edad Media was form Aristóteles while Renaissance was the uncoming from Platon. Here it is shawn ho the knowledge is used to keep a paradigm, although it must be made by hiding it. (Doesn't it sounds contemporary). You can see the opposite forces also through the secular and regular orders in Catholic Church -imperant system of power in this historic moment-. Sean Connery role's perfectly shows the beginning of the science and rationally arguments which started to ask for open knowledge, the self inner question in each history moment of break start to appear bit by bit on different minds before the point of break is represented on him -and he act perfectly this role-. It's also a great pretext to take some Art History lessons... the Middle Age features are clearly shown in a typical romanic Monastery, also showing the history moment of Feudalism, when the monastery was the Feudalist to whom the feudals had to pay their taxes. Many things to show, and many things well shown. And what's more interesting, besides it can be used as a "documental" to show this history moment on occidental life, it has a wonderful argument that makes you income the information without notice the "lessons" while the story catch you.
Interesting, a little grim. Not mind-blowing. The characters seemed likable enough that maybe I can get through the book now, which sounds like it would be worth doing.
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